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What is your timezone?

I'm in Brazil and need to know the times convenient for me communicate with you.

Answer me through my talk page please. Ha! See "notes for my work" at User:Alexandre. Utils categories...

Alexandre 19:51, February 2, 2011 (EST)

Read, pls

Sorry Mr. K., for my strong expression, shouldn't have been on your site. Of course, your service is not bad, but me (and some other users probably, too) are a bit irritated from your lag of replying and hope to read more of you in the future. I know that managing a site such as referata AND coding semantic extensions is a hard job, but there are lots of open requests where you have not even replied to. I hope you now understand what was going on, that had no bad meaning, not to you and not to wikiworks. --Dennis07 14:55, February 15, 2011 (EST)

Hi - I'm sorry about not responding to stuff; I do feel bad about it. In general, I haven't responded when I couldn't think of any specific thing to say about the question or request - but still, I should at least acknowledge that I read it. I'll try to do that more. Yaron Koren 16:29, February 15, 2011 (EST)
Thx ;) --Dennis07 21:39, February 18, 2011 (EST)

Question about loading speed of my site

Hello Mr. Koren, can you tell me why my site most times is loading and loading ut could not be accessed? This happens only with the mow-wiki not with my wiki-database or with the referata main site. I know that my site is one of the most visited (if not even the most visited) referata site, but is there a way to improve the loading speed of it? I thought this had been over since you booked new traffic space to your website, but as it seems, this is not over. My site only has got ~37K Pageviews per week, this should be no problem for a normal website. Other wiki farms do not have this problem but they have ads, thats why i have chosen referata. But it is the wrong decision while my site is unavailible for the users and for me. I hope you are able to solve it soon. Cheers; --Dennis07 06:15, February 21, 2011 (EST)

The number of page views doesn't affect it - that is, traffic affects all the wikis equally. It could have been slower because you have some images and widgets and such - although now it looks like the speed is fine; maybe it was just a temporary issue. Yaron Koren 15:06, February 21, 2011 (EST)
Yes, its temporary, but it seems to be nearly every day several times for some time... And widgets i have pugged in only one in each page, but thx. --Dennis07 12:32, February 22, 2011 (EST)

Problem with Time-Zone on all Sites

Hello Mr. Koren,
Since (I think it was near the time you...) ugraded MediaWiki to 1.16.1, there is a problem with the time zones:

Every Referata-Site is fixed on the time zone of your server, thats why it is allways called EST in signatures. Most sites, especially international ones run with GMT, not with any US-American time.

Also if the wiki user uses GMT+0 and the wiki admin defined an offset of 0 from the GMT, there is allways this EST in signatures. This is very misleading because the page history tells another story than the signature.

Could the be fixed, pls? ;)
--Dennis07 14:15, February 23, 2011 (EST)

Merge users please

Hello! Merge user "Alexandre" with user "Alexandre Magno" please. I am they. I want "Alexandre". Alexandre Magno 21:33, February 28, 2011 (EST)

Yaron can only rename a user account, he is not able to merge multiple user accounts on one site. --Dennis07 07:19, March 1, 2011 (EST)
Hi - actually, I can do a merge - I think I just did it. Yaron Koren 11:45, March 1, 2011 (EST)
Sorry, Mr. Koren, but how did you do that, if I can ask? Sorry, I did not know that is possible... --Dennis07 17:15, March 1, 2011 (EST)
There's an extension on Referata that allows it - you can get to the page by clicking "Merge and delete users" from the "Admin links" page. Yaron Koren 18:30, March 1, 2011 (EST)
Ah... I saw that... But what I do not understand: There are 2 Logs: User Merge Log and Merge Log. What is the other one good for? --Dennis07 12:20, March 3, 2011 (EST)
That one I don't know. Yaron Koren 12:44, March 3, 2011 (EST)
You mean you do not see it or that you do not know what it is good for? Bacause maybe it as a faeture of another entension which we have not noticed... I will browse for that ... cheers; --Dennis07 22:33, March 5, 2011 (EST)

Skins question

Hi Yaron. I'm just wondering if we can make our own custom skins (as in, completely from scratch, like this wiki's). Or is that something only you can do? Also, would it be possible to get the <charinsert></charinsert> extension? If not, that's okay. Thanks! Takharii 23:15, March 4, 2011 (EST)

Custom skins are currently only possible with the "Enterprise" service level. As for CharInsert - I checked it out, and it looks like a harmless, useful extension, so I just added it to Referata. Yaron Koren 10:54, March 6, 2011 (EST)
Great, thanks! Takharii 00:28, March 9, 2011 (EST)
Thanks; --Dennis07 06:58, March 9, 2011 (EST)

Good anti-vandalism extension

On my site, there is a vandalism attack for several days. I already blocked the creation of new user accounts - without success. What I noticed: Most uploaded files contain the word Gourmet, whatever this stands for. My sugestion is to install the already-in-use-on-WM-sites extension TitleBlacklist which is able to block the creation of pages with titles that contain the tags written down in interface page. It is on you to decide wether this is the right solution for the current spam-attack, but it is definitly one. --Dennis07 14:43, March 9, 2011 (EST)

Hi - I saw your wiki; I didn't realize that the spam was still ongoing after the latest set of anti-spam actions on Referata. I don't think a title blacklist would be very helpful - the titles they use keep changing, in a pretty random way. But the reCAPTCHA module that Referata was using has been the subject of a lot of discussion on the MediaWiki mailing list recently - apparently it no longer works very well. So I just switched over all of Referata to use the "MathCaptcha" module instead - it's a combination of character recognition and math problem, and apparently it hasn't been beaten yet. Hopefully that will improve things. Yaron Koren 11:43, March 11, 2011 (EST)
Sorry, but I were unable to reply because of a database error. I wanted to say: Thanks! -- unsigned

We got a wave of spam on March 12th. Have you considered Extension:Nuke? It should make cleanup a lot easier. Bowlerslueth 19:44, March 17, 2011 (EDT)

Hi - that's too bad. That's a good idea, though - I just added that extension, and now you can also get to it from the "Admin links" page - it's listed as "Mass delete" (in English). Yaron Koren 12:44, March 18, 2011 (EDT)

Images in Stargate Wiki FR

Hi Yaron,
It seems there is a bug regarding the use of images with a limited size. When you put an image size into the braquets of the image, the image doesn't appear but instead of, the link text. I think it's the file size conversion extension which doesn't work. For the moment, I saw this issue with png and svg files. Exemple with this link and this one. Thank you for your answer. Regards --LIMAFOX76 16:34, March 28, 2011 (EDT)

Sorry, may be it's a delay of the making. The first link is working now. --LIMAFOX76 16:40, March 28, 2011 (EDT)
Are SVG files supposed to show up as images in MediaWiki? They're not really supported by most browsers... Yaron Koren 10:07, March 29, 2011 (EDT)
Oh yes, there are. See the french Wikipedia with the templates for an example. They use them a lot. SVG files are vectorial files (often made with Inkscape) which are supported by many browsers. --LIMAFOX76 12:08, March 29, 2011 (EDT)
Okay - it turns out that MediaWiki displays SVG files by first converting them to PNG, and then displaying that (see here). That in turn requires installing an SVG renderer - which takes some work. How important would you say this is? (Inkscape can, of course, export as PNG itself). Yaron Koren 13:53, March 31, 2011 (EDT)
I will use them a lot for example, I will use many glyphs symbols for Stargate Adresses which are in SVG format. 3 Stargates, 39 symboles for the first, 36 for the others. That's a lot of pages. --LIMAFOX76 01:20, April 1, 2011 (EDT)


Hello, I am a administrator at the now spam-wasteland Wikicars. Me along with the bureaucrat-admin Red marquis decided to move from Wikicars to Autopedia ShoutWiki. ShoutWiki has failed us so were probably gonna move here. --Silver Knight 03:21, May 3, 2011 (EDT)

Securing my Referata site?

Hello Mr. Koren,

I am sorry to ask you for that, but i have a question:

Am I able to secure all data fom my site (incl. Users, etc., just for security?). I know that there is a feature ti export pages, but what about the rest?

Thx, Dennis

You can get the list of usernames, but that's about it - wiki admins don't have any special access to the personal data of the wiki's users. Yaron Koren 09:52, May 11, 2011 (EDT)
And is there any way of downloading the list at least? --Dennis07 20:51, May 13, 2011 (EDT)
Go to Special:ListUsers. Yaron Koren 16:52, May 16, 2011 (EDT)
Okay, I know, but what about making a feature to secure the database, such as most other wikifarms have it got? -- 15:20, June 30, 2011 (EDT)
What do you mean by that? Yaron Koren 18:37, June 30, 2011 (EDT)


My site is having trouble processing edits over 30k. Afro 16:17, May 16, 2011 (EDT)

Does that happen all the time, or just sometimes? And what's the error message, if any? Yaron Koren 16:55, May 16, 2011 (EDT)
Well I just started up the site, but I get this line with various line numbers each time. "Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in /home/yaron57/public_html/w/includes/parser/Preprocessor_DOM.php on line 931" Afro 17:41, May 16, 2011 (EDT)
I just successfully saved a page that was over 90K on a Referata wiki - do you know what the size of your text is? And does it contain anything special, like widgets or Semantic MediaWiki stuff? Yaron Koren 23:13, May 16, 2011 (EDT)
The most extensive thing used is a flag template and for this page its 31,031 bytes. Afro 07:05, May 17, 2011 (EDT)
Is the problem still happening? Maybe it was just some temporary slowness on the server. If it's still happening, you could email me the text you're trying to save - Yaron Koren 09:35, May 17, 2011 (EDT)
Well its not just one page I'm trying to save which is over 30kb. Afro 09:51, May 17, 2011 (EDT)
The error must of sorted it outself or was a temporary fault, I've been able to save the page now, I'll be sure to notify you if it happens again. Afro 13:08, May 17, 2011 (EDT)
I thought the error had disappeared when I was able to save the page but it comes up now when I try to save a page this big or bigger and when I try to load this page. Afro 08:11, May 18, 2011 (EDT)
I think the problem might be the use of Flags since I'm using the directory from Wikimedia (see here no flag shows up). Afro 10:55, May 19, 2011 (EDT)
I opened up a secondary site and there seems to be no error with that site, so I'm going to delete the one I have a problem with and use the one I just opened. Afro 13:36, May 19, 2011 (EDT)
I did have the same problem on the second site, but I've seemed to of fixed it, seems to be no fault of the sites, seems to of been the extensive use of the Flag Template, I guess it loaded the ton of if's every time, anyway just notifying you to let you know I seemed to of solved it. Afro 14:51, May 21, 2011 (EDT)


  • referata all service is free?--Msnhinet8 05:24, May 21, 2011 (EDT)
  • I first use.--Msnhinet8 05:44, May 21, 2011 (EDT)
Basic service is free, but there are some options that require payment. Yaron Koren 17:44, May 22, 2011 (EDT)
  • ok I understand.--Msnhinet8 20:27, May 22, 2011 (EDT)


My site seems to be having trouble accessing images, just wondering how long till the sites able to access images again. Afro 11:14, May 23, 2011 (EDT)

It should happen instantaneously. Do you have a link to an image that's not loading? Yaron Koren 13:59, May 23, 2011 (EDT)
All my images aren't loading 404 error and its not me relying on the Wikimedia database as I did upload the image See here. Afro 17:10, May 23, 2011 (EDT)
Aha - the issue was for thumbnail images, for wikis with a "URL alias". Sorry about that - I believe it's fixed now. Yaron Koren 19:55, May 24, 2011 (EDT)
Yes it is, thankyou. Afro 03:13, May 25, 2011 (EDT)
By the way if you needed help with these bots on the main site I'd be willing to give a hand. Afro 15:57, May 30, 2011 (EDT)
Thanks - although there weren't actually any bots involved with this one; the issue was just URLs pointing to the wrong place. Yaron Koren 09:11, June 2, 2011 (EDT)
I meant the site, since you seem to be constantly spammed by bots. Afro 12:23, June 2, 2011 (EDT)
Ah, spam-bots... okay, thanks a lot for the offer. I'm trying now to come up with a better technical solution for the spam, but if that doesn't work I'll let you know. Yaron Koren 12:49, June 2, 2011 (EDT)


  • How many Referata staff?--Msnhinet8 20:35, May 23, 2011 (EDT)
Enough. :) Yaron Koren 19:56, May 24, 2011 (EDT)
lol --Dennis07 15:48, May 29, 2011 (EDT)

log in

  • Hi,My wiki [維基電影]Unable to log in, I do not know how to do.--Msnhinet8 02:27, June 6, 2011 (EDT)
  • Can you help me?--Msnhinet8 02:27, June 6, 2011 (EDT)
When you first created the wiki, you also set a username and password - do you remember what those were? Yaron Koren 09:04, June 6, 2011 (EDT)
  • Yes,I remember my password.--Msnhinet8 20:06, June 6, 2011 (EDT)
What happens when you try to log in? Yaron Koren 23:27, June 6, 2011 (EDT)
  • You can speak chinese?--Msnhinet8 08:03, June 7, 2011 (EDT)
  • Beacuse I have some English will not say.--Msnhinet8 08:03, June 7, 2011 (EDT)
  • I from in Taiwan.--Msnhinet8 08:03, June 7, 2011 (EDT)
  • My Country speak is chinese.--Msnhinet8 08:03, June 7, 2011 (EDT)
No, I can't speak Chinese. Yaron Koren 12:48, June 7, 2011 (EDT)

Few issues

First, not sure if you know but [1] doesn't redirect here without the www. Second I'm having a problem saving a few pages on my wiki I get an error "Notice: Trying to get property of non-object in /home/yaron57/public_html/w/extensions/WikiGarden/includes/WG_Utils.php on line 247

Fatal error: Call to undefined method stdClass::allowInlineDisplay() in /home/yaron57/public_html/w/includes/Linker.php on line 446" it seems kind of weird that I get an error like this as I don't get this error when saving other pages which are similar. Afro 04:44, June 6, 2011 (EDT)

Thanks for letting me know about that. For the second issue - I would guess that there's some image or file on those pages that's causing problems - can you link to one of those pages? Yaron Koren 09:06, June 6, 2011 (EDT)
It's a completely new page I'm creating, I've tried to fiddle with the templates that would be on page but like I said these are used on other pages I've recently created. Afro 10:14, June 6, 2011 (EDT)
Well, do you see that same problem if you try to re-save an existing page that uses those templates? Yaron Koren 10:26, June 6, 2011 (EDT)
Whatever caused this seems to of gone away, the pages which I was having trouble saving were this one and this one. Afro 11:18, June 6, 2011 (EDT)

Okay, cool. I made a small change in the code that might be what fixed the problem - I don't know. But let me know, of course, if it comes back. Yaron Koren

Additional Userrights?

Will any addition userrights be added to the Referata wikis that the other major wikis (most notably Wikipedia) have, like Rollback, Reviewer (flagged revisions), and Checkuser? Tonynlin123 11:05, July 13, 2011 (EDT)

You should already have the rollback right, if you're an admin. The other two - reviewer and checkuser - come from two extensions that Referata doesn't have. In place of Flagged Revisions, Referata uses Approved Revs, a much simpler extension, whose functionality, if you're an admin, you should be able to see on every history page for pages in the main namespace - the "approve" links. Yaron Koren 00:10, July 14, 2011 (EDT)

SVG problem: Error while creating thumbnail

Issue: «Error creating thumbnail: convert: Non-conforming drawing primitive definition `pt'.» message appearing instead of a .svg image thumbnail. Example DaemonDice 12:53, July 13, 2011 (EDT)

Hi again. Was that a problem on my side? If so, I'll start lurking for how I've caused it. DaemonDice 10:14, July 31, 2011 (EDT)
Hi - sorry, I don't know. A web search on that error messages reveals other MediaWiki wikis where that problem exists, but no solutions. My guess is that the SVG file contains something that MediaWiki's SVG parser doesn't like. Yaron Koren 15:35, July 31, 2011 (EDT)


  • Hallo,you can close my three wikis?--Msnhinet8 05:15, July 30, 2011 (EDT)
  • close wikis↓:
  • 台灣新聞
  • 台中百科
  • 圍紀百科
  • Thanks you.--Msnhinet8 05:15, July 30, 2011 (EDT)
  • english:I can not afford to delete my own station set up.--Msnhinet8 05:18, July 30, 2011 (EDT)
  • chinese:因為我刪不掉自己建立的站。--Msnhinet8 05:18, July 30, 2011 (EDT)
You mean, you want to delete these three? You can do that yourself - for free. Just click on "Site settings > Deletion > Delete site". Yaron Koren 18:42, July 30, 2011 (EDT)
  • Thanks.--Msnhinet8 02:10, August 21, 2011 (EDT)

change time

  • Hi,how can I change time?I signature view the EDT,How can I change time to the UTC?--Msnhinet8 02:10, August 21, 2011 (EDT)
Not possible in my view. That is caused by the server's time zone, i think.
--Dennis07 05:27, August 21, 2011 (EDT)
You should be able to, using the "Hours offset from GMT" field in the main tab of the "Site settings" page. Yaron Koren 11:42, August 21, 2011 (EDT)
  • Thanks I try it!--Msnhinet8 03:00, August 22, 2011 (EDT)
Not working, I already tried...--Dennis07 14:54, September 2, 2011 (EDT)

Database Error still accuring....

Hello Mr. Koren,
on my site, the DB error still accures when trying to access. On most other sites, it seemes to be solved after i contacted you. I have waited some days, because I thought it would take some time to update the sites, but my site (that was the only one where I still notice the error) is dead, yet. Can you please solve this error? Thanks; --Dennis07 09:10, November 13, 2011 (EST)

Oops - I didn't realize that wiki was having problems. It's fixed now. Yaron Koren 13:26, November 13, 2011 (EST)
 ;) Thanks! --Dennis07 13:41, November 13, 2011 (EST)

MediaWiki upgrade

Hello Mr. Koren,
I just wanted to contact you for the suggestion to upgrade MediaWiki on Referata to the recently-released v1.18.0 final or at least to 1.17.1 update.
Thank you; --Dennis07 13:37, November 29, 2011 (EST)

Hi - yes, I saw that MW 1.18 came out, which is great news. I hope to upgrade Referata to that in the next few days. Yaron Koren 14:26, November 30, 2011 (EST)
Hello, nice to hear that, Mr. Koren! ... Thanks for doing that; --Dennis07 09:18, December 1, 2011 (EST)

EST time

  • Hi,Yaron Koren:How can I will User talk EST change UCT+8 in the default?--Msnhinet8 22:11, December 2, 2011 (EST)
Hello Msnhinet8, you can chance your site's default time zone on the page Special:SiteSettings in your wiki. Please be so nice to read through the questions above before you post a new one, this problem was talked about here. --Dennis07 08:54, December 3, 2011 (EST)
  • Thanks.--Msnhinet8 01:03, December 5, 2011 (EST)

I am upset that its been a week and I still haven't heard a reply on my problem I posted on the Talk:Main Page. I am still having trouble uploading my logo, however I'm still able to upload images which aren't my logo, although I still get an error after uploading. Afro 05:06, December 6, 2011 (EST)

Hi - sorry about that; I completely missed both of your talk page questions - you happened to post them two weeks ago, during what was a very... eventful time on Referata. I'll respond to them now. Yaron Koren 14:35, December 6, 2011 (EST)

Ajax Search-Suggestions not working

Hello Mr. Koren,
I noticed that the search suggestions you enabled some time ago do not work since you updated MediaWiki to 1.18.0.
I checked out the Special:Preferences page, but there is no tick at "Disable Ayax Search Suggestions". What's the reason of it? Is there a way to re-enable that again? Thanks; --Dennis07 15:24, December 6, 2011 (EST)

Hi - the search suggestions thing, including the "disable" button, looks like it's working correctly on most wikis on Referata, though not yours (menofwarwiki) for some reason - I don't know why. Hopefully I can figure it out. Yaron Koren 14:58, December 7, 2011 (EST)
Well, on that time I found the error that was on all referata sites, some hours after you updated MediaWiki. But As I recently noticed, the error has gone away... I think that was only a problem caused by the server change, maybe some of the features did not work at that time, yet. Anyway, thanks for the answer.... If more errors occure, I will contact you, of course. It I am annoying you with my error reports just let me know, but I think if I do that it can only be positive for the site and all users, including you as the owner. Cheers; --Dennis07 08:52, December 9, 2011 (EST)
No, it's definitely not annoying - with so many recent changes to the wiki, I wouldn't be surprised if there are more issues that I don't know about yet. Please do let me know. Yaron Koren 12:47, December 9, 2011 (EST)
As you wish, Mr. Koren. I will try to allert you with any problems in the future. Cheers; --Dennis07 11:27, December 11, 2011 (EST)

Logo issues

Hello Yaron, I upload a logo to http://CommunityRights.US and it acts weird, being too big, or not centered, etc. Do you have any tips, or is there a Working with logos page about best practices here? Best, MarkDilley

And like the trusty mechanic, all I needed to do was speak it, for now it appears to be ok... :-)


Just wondering whats with all this downtime lately, for the past few days for several hours each day I haven't been able to my site or this one, and it was noticeably much longer today. Afro 14:01, December 31, 2011 (EST)

Yes, there has been a lot of downtime in the last few days, including today - I'm sorry about that. I assume it's due to increased usage of the site. If it keeps happening, I'll talk to the hosting company about increasing the memory on the server. Yaron Koren 19:36, January 2, 2012 (EST)
Hi Yaron. My new wiki (wikipapers) has suffered today some downtime episodes (pages trying to load and timeout). But it doesn't affect to all Referata wikis (foodfinds works fine). Is there any difference between wikis? Thanks. Emijrp 21:02, January 21, 2012 (EST)
Hi. Since I started my wiki (permagarden) a few days ago I have experienced at least 1 prolonged period of downtime every day. Yesterday was the worst yet with a period lasting over 2 hours. I would like to stick with your site but I am concerned about its unreliability. Can you reassure me that this is a temporary problem that you are going to fix? (Other than this issue the site seems great and I look forward to learning to use the semantic features.) Eeeickythump 12:59, January 24, 2012 (EST)
Hi - yes, it's been pretty bad over the last week or so - not every day, but every few days there's been downtime. Sorry about that. I've been trying out different things, based in part on discussions with the hosting company, and I actually think things are improving, yesterday's downtime notwithstanding. Anyway, I'm still aware of, and working on, the issue. But no, I can't provide any concrete reassurance beyond that. Yaron Koren 17:18, January 24, 2012 (EST)

MediaWiki update to v1.18.1

Hello Mr. Koren! I do not know whether you've noticed the is a new version of the Software availible. Several security issues and bugs have been fixed. Can you please upgrade? Thx; --Dennis07 16:12, January 12, 2012 (EST)

Good idea, thanks - I just upgraded. Yaron Koren 11:56, January 15, 2012 (EST)
Thanks! --Dennis07 11:25, January 17, 2012 (EST)

User rights management

Hello Mr. Koren!

I wanted to change the user rights of a person (removing admin-rights). Instead of a conformation message, the following error occurs:

Es ist ein Datenbankfehler aufgetreten. Der Grund kann ein Programmierfehler sein. Die letzte Datenbankabfrage lautete:

   INSERT IGNORE INTO `user_former_groups` (ufg_user,ufg_group) VALUES ('12','sysop')

aus der Funktion „User::removeGroup“. Die Datenbank meldete den Fehler „1146: Table 'yaron57_menofwarwiki.user_former_groups' doesn't exist (localhost)“.

I'll try to translate it into English:

A database error occured. THe reason might be a programming error. The last database query was:

   INSERT IGNORE INTO `user_former_groups` (ufg_user,ufg_group) VALUES ('12','sysop')

from function „User::removeGroup“. The database allerted the error „1146: Table 'yaron57_menofwarwiki.user_former_groups' doesn't exist (localhost)“.

Hope that English is okay ;) Can you fix that, please? Thx. --Dennis07 12:14, January 17, 2012 (EST)

Thanks for pointing that out - I think that new table has been added everywhere now. Yaron Koren 13:21, January 18, 2012 (EST)
Thanks for fixing it. By the way, here are some spam pages (TO ALL READERS: DO NOT KLICK ON THE LINKS POSTED ON ANY OF THE PAGES LISTED BELOW!):
--Dennis07 07:23, January 19, 2012 (EST)

SVG file cannot display, causes error message

I just uploaded an SVG (vector graphics) file to my wiki. The wiki seems to be unable to display the file, and unable to create a thumbnail. Instead it shows this message:

Error creating thumbnail: convert: error while loading shared libraries: failed to map segment from shared object: Cannot allocate memory

The uploaded file is here. You can also see the error message there. Eeeickythump 16:36, February 15, 2012 (EST)


Please, see requested features‎ page. Ole Yves 12:53, March 3, 2012 (EST)

  • Can I obtain administrator rights? To prevent vandalism. Ole Yves 18:07, March 7, 2012 (EST)

Please Block this User

Hello Yaron Koren, can you please block User:Heecf. He/She has spammed much of the site, as you can see from the Recent Changes. Also, I hid your talk page archives with <!-- --> because the code that User:Heecf wrote on your page appeared in there. Thank you Takharii 00:13, March 8, 2012 (EST)

Hello Takhari, this user (Heecf) is alsready blocked for some time because of a spam attack. Please notice that "suspicion of spamming" is not a reason for a permanent ban, but as the user was already involved in an self-caused attack, he is permanently banned. If you are not sure whether a user is alsready banned you may look up in the public public logs, on the contributions page or on the user page. Please report any spam-concerning stuff to me, not to Yaron who is mainly occupied with other things of Referata. Thank you; --Dennis (Administrator) 17:10, March 12, 2012 (EDT)


  • what not use UTC in the default?--Msnhinet8 08:35, March 12, 2012 (EDT)
Hello Msnhinet, I and probably all others are unable to understand your question. --Dennis (Administrator) 13:20, March 20, 2012 (EDT)

MediaWiki update to v1.18.2

Hello Mr. Koren,
A new version of MediaWiki is availible for download. It is a security release which solves several problems and lags with the software. Thanks; --Dennis (Administrator) 05:52, March 23, 2012 (EDT)

Thanks for letting me know about that - I just updated the software. Yaron Koren 23:52, March 26, 2012 (EDT)


Just making sure you get the message that when I attempt to upload files on my wiki I get an error "error storing file in '/tmp/php9iPgb1.png': upload_directory_missing; /home/yaron57/public_html/w/images/tennis-info". I did also leave a message on Talk:Main Page. Afro 08:52, April 9, 2012 (EDT)

Yeah - I just responded there. Yaron Koren 20:02, April 9, 2012 (EDT)


  • I choose Basic service,The one wiki how much upload file?--Msnhinet8 04:29, April 14, 2012 (EDT)
100 MB altogether. Yaron Koren 20:19, April 24, 2012 (EDT)
  • so upload file is unlimited?--Msnhinet8 02:21, April 25, 2012 (EDT)

No, the limit is 100 MB. Yaron Koren 10:47, April 25, 2012 (EDT)

  • ok,I known,thanks.--Msnhinet8 20:38, April 25, 2012 (EDT)

User talk timezone by default

  • Please set the timezone of my wiki to be CST timezone by default.--Msnhinet8 01:37, April 15, 2012 (EDT)
  • Thank you.--Msnhinet8 01:37, April 15, 2012 (EDT)
Hi - sorry for the delay. You can set that for yourself in "Site settings", in the field "Hours offset from GMT". Yaron Koren 20:18, April 24, 2012 (EDT)
  • ok,i,know.--Msnhinet8 02:14, April 25, 2012 (EDT)
  • Thanks.--Msnhinet8 02:16, April 25, 2012 (EDT)

MediaWiki update to v1.18.3

Hello Mr. Koren, There is a new version availible with fixes some bugs.

Cheers; --Dennis (Administrator) 15:53, April 26, 2012 (EDT)

Thanks for letting me know! I just upgraded the code. Yaron Koren 22:40, April 29, 2012 (EDT)

Namespace creation request

At some point, I would like to create several new namespaces on WikiSevton, which I just started about two hours ago. Character:, Place:, Brand:, Word:, Phrase:, Family: and Paragraph: are the initial fields that fall into the scope of this project.

I'm not sure how to go about it myself, though; there's no indication of such a process on the main Referata itself. Or do I have to wait on the developers/admins? --Routhwick 06:18, May 1, 2012 (EDT)

Hi Routhwick,
You cannot create own namespaces on Referata sites at the momment. This issue has been asked to be introduced several times, but there is not ability yet to create custom name spaces. --Dennis (Administrator) 09:16, May 1, 2012 (EDT)
Sorry, it will be possible soon or users interested in such have to post a specific request? Tx, --Nevinho 11:09, May 1, 2012 (EDT)
Thank you, guys. Special:Namespaces is not only showing up on my site, but also on another that I checked a few minutes ago.
At the same time, though, the Project: prefix keeps changing from its native name to another in Referata's network. Did the shake-up bite into it? Not that I'm complaining much. --Routhwick 18:48, May 1, 2012 (EDT)
Hi - yes, prompted by this little flurry of requests, I finally tried to install the SpecialNamespaces extension yesterday. It did create the Special:Namespaces page, but it didn't actually work - creating new namespaces with that page didn't seem to have any effect on the set of namespaces within the wiki. And it had the strange and unfortunate side effect of changing the "Project:" namespace alias, as Routhwick noticed. Given both of those things, I decided to disable the extension earlier today. I'll try to look into it again, but I'm not that confident about being able to use this extension on Referata. Yaron Koren 09:12, May 2, 2012 (EDT)


[2] I'm getting a huge error when it comes to my Flag templates. Afro (talk) 15:15, May 4, 2012 (EDT)

Hi, yes - there's been a problem with the display of images since the upgrade of Referata to MediaWiki 1.19 last night - I hope to have it fixed soon. Sorry about that. Yaron Koren (talk) 15:22, May 4, 2012 (EDT)
It appears to be fixed soon. No worries. Afro 13:41, May 5, 2012 (EDT)
I still get an error, and also as seen here the system seems to create some kind of extra border around some of my images. Afro 21:05, May 13, 2012 (EDT)
I assume you're talking about the missing "N/A" image? Which images have a border around them, though? I don't see any. Yaron Koren 11:30, May 14, 2012 (EDT)
All those images have a border around them. [3] usually its just a light line around the image as shown on Metz, but for some reason this comes up as a purple thicker line, like it has 2 borders around it. Afro 13:51, May 14, 2012 (EDT)
Just to clarify - is it just the border around the "N/A" image that's a problem, or also the border around the "Metz" image? Yaron Koren 13:51, May 15, 2012 (EDT)
I added the Metz as an example of what it usually looks like, sorry for the confusion. Afro 14:55, May 15, 2012 (EDT)
Okay. It looks like your file "Flag of None" was accidentally deleted, probably during the failed upgrade. Sorry about that. I would recommend re-uploading that file, if it's not too much trouble; I think that will fix the display. Yaron Koren 15:33, May 15, 2012 (EDT)
It's not file specific though, it was the quickest example I could find on my wiki. Afro 03:14, May 16, 2012 (EDT)
Seems all my files were lost in the move. Afro 03:15, May 16, 2012 (EDT)
Yikes! I'm very sorry about that. The aborted changeover to MW 1.19 caused some images to be deleted on some wikis, though I didn't realize it had happened to all of yours. It looks like the thumbnails are almost all still there, though that's not entirely the same. I hope that this doesn't cause a major problem. Unfortunately, I don't think the deleted images can be restored. Yaron Koren 14:48, May 16, 2012 (EDT)
To correct it was most images, about 100 images were deleted, which are now sorted and the purple border still remains, so the deleted images weren't the cause. Afro 17:06, May 16, 2012 (EDT)
By the way it isn't just limited to one page [4] For example the border around Sweden is purple. Afro 18:45, May 19, 2012 (EDT)
Hi - I'm not seeing a purple border around the Sweden flag, on any of the browsers I tried on Windows. What browser are you seeing it with? Yaron Koren 10:15, May 21, 2012 (EDT)
I'm using Chrome, and this is what I see as a comparison clear different border around the first. Afro 13:15, May 21, 2012 (EDT)

SMW messages aren't displaying any links

I've already customised a handful of system messages on WikiSevton relating to the SMW system. But one of them, Anoneditwarning, is now irking me the most. Though it displays correctly on edit forms like this one (when viewed by visitors), the wikilinks and external links will refuse to do so in this semantic form.

Though I've tried getting around it with several parser tweaks, and looking at the page's source code with IE's F12 tools, I don't understand why all that raw code must taint the page. I really don't know why. Can you give an explanation (and hopefully a solution)? --Routhwick 19:23, May 11, 2012 (EDT)

That definitely looks like a bug. Let me put on my developer hat, instead of my administrator hat, and ask you to please submit a bug report about this at - it will make it easier to keep track of and ultimately fix this bug. Yaron Koren 23:08, May 12, 2012 (EDT)

New pages

Hi Yaron, What do you think about creating seperate pages for bug reports and questions about referata? That would keep your talk page clean of general stuff and it would increase the overview and research of information and help for users.
What do you think about that? --Dennis (Administrator) 03:54, May 21, 2012 (EDT)

That's a good idea - a "Bug reports" page would be great, and a "Questions" page might make sense - though for the second one, maybe Talk:Main Page already works for that? Yaron Koren 10:18, May 21, 2012 (EDT)
Yea, "Talk:Main Page" is definitely the current "Questions" page, even if there are also other kinds of issues. Normally I would say this is an abuse of the talk page, because it is for the Main Page by default, but I dont see a reason to change that, either. The Main Page is protected and there is no reason for a user to talk about the page itself.
By the way - I will improve the FAQ page this weekend, if I get time for that. There are some infos missing which might interest users. Cheers; --Dennis (Administrator) 08:32, May 24, 2012 (EDT)

I can't login


Some months ago I changed the configuration of my site, now I can't login anymore to my account. It says "the site allows only OpenID Logins".

My site is:

--Andrey 15:44, June 3, 2012 (EDT)

Hi - I just changed your site's registration back to the default, so now you should be able to log in normally. Yaron Koren 10:25, June 4, 2012 (EDT)

Thank you! :D --Andrey 14:13, June 4, 2012 (EDT)

Last revision

Is there anyway to get a list like Pages with Fewest Revisions together to show you when the last edit on a certain page was? Afro 12:19, June 14, 2012 (EDT)

Nevermind I just found it. Afro 12:25, June 14, 2012 (EDT)

Error on the statistics

On Oldest pages it says I have 5320 pages. On my statistics it says I have 4824 pages, why does this error appear? Afro 17:56, June 16, 2012 (EDT)

Hi - that's because MediaWiki has a different counting for "content pages"; it doesn't count pages that are very short, including redirects. Yaron Koren 11:02, June 17, 2012 (EDT)
Ok, well no redirects should be listed there anyway, what does it count as "very short"? any specific number of bytes? Afro 16:14, June 17, 2012 (EDT)
This page provides more explanation - I guess it's not based on the length. Yaron Koren 16:26, June 17, 2012 (EDT)
Thanks for the info, I know at least how to add a minor improvement now. Afro 17:04, June 17, 2012 (EDT)

Mass Deletion

Hey Yaron, I'd thought I'd let you know that there are a few pages up for deletion Thanks, LoopyMan56 12:14, July 28, 2012 (EDT)

Hi, Thanks LoopyMan. I posted on the author's talk page to force him moving his work to Scratchpad. I suggest to report vandalism and spam to me (using my talk page), this will make the software send me an email about changes there. It is difficult to watch this site continuesly, and Yaron does not have time to fight vandalism so often. Thank you! --Dennis (Administrator) 16:58, July 30, 2012 (EDT)


What's happening with the Table of Contents, usually it'd be spread out according to how long the longest header was but nowadays for example here it seems to condense the first sign of a space. Afro 23:41, August 2, 2012 (EDT)

That sounds like just a change in MediaWiki - I don't have any control over that sort of thing. Yaron Koren 10:06, August 3, 2012 (EDT)
Ok was just running it by you. Also I know it was a while back I mentioned it but I found a way to show and hide tables in case any other users you come across are interested Manual:Collapsible elements, since I remember you saying you didn't know of any way to do it. Afro 11:36, August 3, 2012 (EDT)


Hi Yaron, I seem to be having some trouble. When I choose to change my site name, my new site's images don't work properly. Like this: (changed to)

The images at celebimail work, but not fanstuff2. Here is the error I get.

Fatal error: Call to a member function setFile() on a non-object in /home/yaron57/public_html/w/extensions/WikiGarden/includes/WG_Utils.php on line 233

Same thing happened to my referata site. </LoopyMan56>  16:20, August 12, 2012 (EDT)

Never mind. It's back to normal. yay! </LoopyMan56>  23:20, August 17, 2012 (EDT)
Yeah, that was a temporary problem in the code - sorry about that. Yaron Koren 21:21, August 19, 2012 (EDT)

MediaWiki Upgrade

Hi Mr. Koren, I see that Dennis reminds you of updates for Referata, and I found that MediaWiki version 19 is available now, so I decided to tell you that. Thanks, </LoopyMan56>  11:24, September 5, 2012 (EDT)

That's right. Thank you, Loopyman. I haven't visited the MW site for a couple of months, so I did not know about the update. Cheers; --Dennis (Administrator) 15:01, September 5, 2012 (EDT)


Hi Yaron, there is more spam... Celulareswiki </LoopyMan56>  23:34, September 16, 2012 (EDT)

Hello Mr. Koren, there is more spam... If it is the same IP address for all this spam, maybe you can block it. </LoopyMan56>  11:16, September 18, 2012 (EDT)
It's not the same IP address, but I'm trying out some different anti-spam approaches; hopefully something will work. Thanks for your help! Yaron Koren 16:40, September 21, 2012 (UTC)
Your welcome! </LoopyMan56>  16:47, September 21, 2012 (UTC)
Okay, sorry for my inactivity in the recent past, I had to do a lot of work. I just found some time to eleminate the left spam elements and all later spam attampts. I hope this will bring us some break now... cheers; --Dennis (Administrator) 12:21, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

can't site

  • I can't success create a site,what' happen?--Msnhinet8 00:43, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
  • You can watching my wiki this:電視--Msnhinet8 00:45, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
What happens when you try to create the site? Yaron Koren 02:16, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
  • Create wiki, the view garbled.--Msnhinet8 04:02, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
  • 亂碼
  • This may happen sometimes.→
    This may happen sometimes.↑
  • --Msnhinet8 04:09, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
Hello Msnhinet8,
When you create a new site, this site has to be initialized by Google first. This may take up to a few days since the Google bot has to create a copy of the site on the Google servers. If your site is not visible correctly within the next days, you might contact Google support. --Dennis (Administrator) 12:16, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

MediaWiki update 1.19.2

Hi Yaron,
A new version of MediaWiki, not to say even several new versions of MediaWiki have been released since the last update. I suggest to update MediaWiki soon to version 1.19.2 which is the latest release. Cheers; --Dennis (Administrator) 12:37, September 25, 2012 (UTC)