Are the "other languages" features, i.e. polyglot & multilang, installed?
- No - do you need them? They don't seem to make much sense on Referata, since each wiki is distinct from every other. Yaron Koren 05:26, February 23, 2010 (UTC)
Well, yes. I am at least trying to find out the strategy for having multiple versions of a page, e.g. /Main > /Principal_(pt). I noticed on Special:SiteSettings on the referata site is an option available to allow subpages and it is suggested on [WikiMedia.org] that one use for this is to create other language versions of a document in multilingual wikis in this fashion: /Main > Main/pt. This is also supposed to create a backlink to the parent page, but that's counterintuitive, since usually when one enters a language version of a site, they would want to stay in that language. It seems more reasonable to invert this hierarchy by creating a sub-site, like /Main > /Pt/Principal - in which all portuguese pages reside under /Pt/
In [Semantic mediawiki help] there is a reference to a property for language code but I have not found a reference on how to use it.
Also in [SMW+ forum] there is sparse reference to using a typed link of this form: [ [pt:pagename ] ] in the english page that supposedly links to a portuguese version. Having tried this, it only wants to create a page with a strange title, i.e., /Pt:Pagename - and this doesn't produce the standard mediawiki sidebar reference to this page in other languages
On Referata, there is a special page called Pages Without Language Links that shows pages that do not have translations in other languages, but I don't know how to implement the language links so that this page will use them. On my test sites, the language setting is English, yet I have pages in portuguese that SWM thinks are English.
What is the correct way to accomplish language version on Referata?
- I swear, I heard a hollow cocoanut sound when I slapped my forehead and finally realized that your suggestion makes perfect sense! I just create a separate wiki, and set the language to Portuguese (or whatever). I guess I wasn't thinking far enough out of the box. So, one questions remains: I presume I use some form of inter-wiki to link the respective pages to one another. Is there an example of how to do this on referata? --WTFologist 15:06, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
- Hi - okay, that makes sense. Yes, there's a way to do that - click on the "View and edit interwiki links" link in the "Admin links" page. Yaron Koren 01:32, March 27, 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, that works great! Now one more issue:
When the site's language is set to a language other than english
the special pages, keywords, built-in data types, and "facts about..." are translated, but the navigation pane, toolbox, etc are NOT. How to I fix this? --WTFologist 17:41, March 27, 2010 (UTC)
- never mind. on another pc these are all translated. I guess it's a cookie thing.
- No. The sidebar is one of the constant-language messages.
- To display different desciptions in different languages, you must define a message for each of them. But instead of typing in the normal message-display-code you only tpye in the name of the system message (not:
- Translating the whole sidebar using eg.
MediaWiki:Sidebar/fr will not work.
- --220.127.116.11 10:42, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
Query tree structured data on one page
Hi, I would like to query tree structured data on one page depending on previous user actions (user selects from first layer items, then second layer items are shown, where one can be selected and so on). I found Extension:Call, which would be sufficient. But maybe this can be done with Semantic Forms Special:RunQuery, if parameters were send with GET method or some other format of parameters stored in url (e.g. separated with '/'). Thanks for reply.
--J.hlavacek 23:04, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
- I have to say, I'm not a big fan of the whole multi-page/"wizard" approach - why not just show all the query fields at once? Also, Semantic Drilldown (i.e., Special:BrowseData) provides another way to incrementally reduce the number of results, on a single page. Yaron Koren 22:32, March 12, 2010 (UTC)
- Okay - for issues/feature requests specifically related to Semantic Drilldown, you should write to the semediawiki-user mailing list. Yaron Koren 02:27, March 15, 2010 (UTC)
Self-Creation of User-Groups and Name-Spaces (ie. via extension)
Is it possible to give users the chance to create new user-groups and namespaces in their wikis?
I thought one guy would ask for that about a year before personally, but as I see there was nothing changed yet.
Would that be possible (maybe over a Special Page ??!?)
--Dennis07 01:45, March 29, 2010 (UTC)
Hello?!?!? Maybe an answer by the admin would be nice.....
Yes or NO ?
--Dennis07 20:05, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
- Hi, sorry about that. It's a nice idea, and I've been thinking about the best way to implement those for a while... I'm still thinking. Sorry that I can't give a better answer than that. Yaron Koren 02:52, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
- Ah nice to hear u.
- As i did some time before, i can give you 2 suggestions of extensions which can do these features:
- For the problem with user groups i havent found an extension, yet.
- --Dennis07 16:42, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
Changing the Default Main Page
Is there a way to set the main page to something other than Main Page? for example: Welcome. I tried moving the main page but this only created a redirect which is not automatically followed when using the link on the navigation pane. This primarily for cosmetic reasons.
--WTFologist 01:00, April 16, 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, you can do that, and in fact in the "admin links" page there's a shortcut to it - within the "General" section, click on "Edit name of main page". Yaron Koren 14:28, April 16, 2010 (UTC)
Nice Ticketing System in SMW
http://ryandlane.com/blog/2010/04/01/creating-a-simple-ticketing-system-with-semantic-mediawiki/ has a nice ticketing system that calls for a few extensions, of which, I see that ReplaceText already is installed. Would you consider it worthwhile to add the others?
--WTFologist 18:42, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's a nice setup. Most of those extensions are already on Referata; I should probably add Semantic Tasks as well. The other ones (like LiquidThreads) aren't really that essential to the whole thing, I don't think... Yaron Koren 02:55, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
You're the greeatst! JMHO
Is it planned to add the vector skin? I agree with the observation that many folks turn their noses up about the cosmetic aspect of (the old wikipedia skin).
- Yeah, Vector would be awesome - I'm thinking of making the default skin for Referata just a yellow version of Vector, once it gets added. Vector comes with version 1.16 of MediaWiki, which hasn't been officially released yet - it's late by about a year already. I was planning to upgrade to 1.16 once the official release happens. Yaron Koren 02:38, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
I have got a nice suggestion: the extension DismissableSiteNotice.
It is used also in wikipedia to hide the Sitenotice after accessing a link. That works because the site copies a cookie to the pc's hard drive and always if this small file is found, the sitenotice is hidden. If no, it will be displayed as normal.
Would that be possible?
--Dennis07 20:32, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
- What type of notice would you want to dismiss? Yaron Koren 17:09, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
- Well, the site-notice, of course. Which is set under MediaWiki:Sitenotice (example), didn't you know?
- This extension allows users to dismiss the notice using cokies. It is also used on wikipedia.
- --Dennis07; 2010-06-19, 11:15 (CET)
- No reply...? :(
- --Dennis07 13:19, January 21, 2011 (EST)
Making a Bureaucrats-restiction level
Would it be possible to add a new restriction level for the page-protection page?
This is possible via $wgRestrictionLevels -variable and does not require much time and work.
The advantage: Pages now can be protected from admins, but are still editable by bureaucrats.
Would that be a good new feature?
--Dennis07 15:21, September 8, 2010 (EDT)
Hi, I was wondering if we might ever get LiquidThreads installed. Our wiki is intended to be sort of a forum and LQT has a lot of advantages in terms of preventing edit conflicts, user friendliness, importing dialog from other wikis with LQT, hard disk space, (you probably know about it).
(Seems someone else may have been interested in LiquidThreads at Requested_features#Nice_Ticketing_System_in_SMW.)
BTW, thanks for the service and the updates on downtimes and fixes. : ) Bowlerslueth 01:36, January 13, 2011 (EST)
- Hi - I'm glad to say that LiquidThreads is already available. Look in the main tab in "Site settings". Yaron Koren 14:49, January 14, 2011 (EST)
- Cool, thanks! Silly me, I didn't even think to check special:Version, although I don't see a clue there anyway.
- LQT is/was pretty buggy. Some coders at RationalWiki have been fixing bugs. I guess they are sending the fixes upstream. There is one of particular concern, and this is where it sometimes looses posts when you try to preview or post. It looks like a tough one to reproduce but maybe Nx will fix it without help. Bowlerslueth 10:47, January 16, 2011 (EST)
- Yea, and if you only want liquidthreads enabled on a single page of your wiki, simply use
0 will unnable it for a single page on your site, if the feature is disabled by default). --Dennis07 13:16, January 21, 2011 (EST)
- (I think you meant to say "enabled" not "disabled" at the end of that sentence.) That was going to be my next question but I tried it and it doesn't seem to work. Bowlerslueth 16:42, February 10, 2011 (EST)
- Oh, this seems to be caused by a patch, either for MEDIAWIKI or for LIQUIDTHREADS. It worked some time above, dont know a solution for that, sry.--Dennis07
Create portuguese interwikis entries
Create portuguese interwikis entries please. Examples: wikipedia-pt.
Also to show interwikis entries list in a page, ok?
Alexandre 08:08, February 2, 2011 (EST)
- Okay, the first one is done. I don't know how to do the second one... Yaron Koren 15:08, February 21, 2011 (EST)
Spam blocking and cleanup
Seem to be getting a lot of spam lately. How about installing http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpamBlacklist ? Bowlerslueth 16:02, February 10, 2011 (EST)
- Bowlerslueth - excellent idea. I added in SpamBlacklist a few days ago, and it seems to have finally ended the spam problem. Yaron Koren 18:33, February 14, 2011 (EST)
- Cool, thanks again! Bowlerslueth 20:54, February 14, 2011 (EST)
Yea, Spam is a real problem yet, and the site management seems to sleep for several YEARS.
Since referata was taken by wikiworks, requests are out of sense, because they are not read anymore.
I hab MUCH enough work in making requests etc., but it seems that WW does not exist or that it does not do its job, thats a pity but it's true. --Dennis07 07:18, February 14, 2011 (EST)
- Well there is always Wikia, where they had video adds running automatically (mandatory spam). Wiki-site required users to pay to have extensions installed. I haven't tried Wikii. Yaron has been outstanding in terms of responding to my requests so I can't complain. (I'm on the free plan so I wouldn't complain even if he didn't.) Bowlerslueth 20:54, February 14, 2011 (EST)
Spam or vandalism cleanup
The spammers used unique page creations and file uploads. Deleting these seems to require loading a page for each. Extension:Nuke is supposed to "[delete] articles and their history by author or IP". This would seem to make these deletions easier and would also help with vandals. Bowlerslueth 20:54, February 14, 2011 (EST)
As I just have seen on the official MediaWiki homepage, there is a security update release ehich was published on at 1. feb of 2011. I have the suggestion to upgrade mediawiki to that version, because it fixes several software bugs and security lacks. Cheers; --Dennis07 06:32, February 21, 2011 (EST)
- Thanks for the suggestion - this is now done. I hope it didn't break anything... :) Yaron Koren 15:15, February 21, 2011 (EST)
- No, abolutely nothing ;) thx; --Dennis07 12:29, February 22, 2011 (EST)
Hi Mr. Koren, I noticed a new version of MediaWiki on the homepage. Would it be possibile to upgrade the software to 1.16.3 version? Thx; --Dennis07 07:23, April 12, 2011 (EDT)
- Hi - thanks for letting me know about that! I just upgraded Referata. Yaron Koren 09:25, April 12, 2011 (EDT)
- N.P. ;) --Dennis07 07:40, April 13, 2011 (EDT)
Hello Mr. Koren,
Would it be possible to let the referata wiki-admin toggle this variable on/off to enable language links on Special:UserLogin?
I think this wpuld be helpful for many admins of international community wikis, and it cannot damage to anyone while this is up to the admin wether he wants it on his site or not (I mean via Special:SiteSettings).
Cheers; --Dennis07 13:24, February 22, 2011 (EST)
- Hi - do you specifically want this for one of your wikis, or are you just guessing that someone else might want it? (I've never heard of this setting being used before.) Yaron Koren 15:32, February 23, 2011 (EST)
- No, I just had a discussion about MW variables in general with one of the admins on mediawiki and we talked about the most useful featueres of MediaWiki. There I asked how Wikipedia gets these language Links into its Login page, and he said that there is a varivable for that which can be activated via Localsettings. This braught me the idea to ask this feature. For my site, it would be a good feature, but on other sites, i can only imagine. If you want, I could ask some wiki admins about their onpinion, if you would think about doing that, because a promised you some time ago that I will never do such a pollation about a requestion again, you remember?... --Dennis07 09:33, February 27, 2011 (EST)
- Okay. And yes, please no polling, unless it's people you already know. Yaron Koren 14:04, February 27, 2011 (EST)
- Well, I know those which I would ask, of course. Other wise I'd not ask them ... ^^. But if you say: "No.", I will not do that. cheers; --Dennis07 15:40, February 27, 2011 (EST)
Adding graphing capability
Would it be a lot of trouble to add something like www.graphviz.org? I don't imagine it is semantic aware but it seems like it would still be useful and maybe it could be made semantic aware over time and be a useful tool for viewing and tweaking ontologies and such.
--Soloman 19:48, March 28, 2011 (EDT)
- I think something simular is provided by a semantic extension, I think it was Extension:Semantic Result Formats.
- Cheers; --Dennis07 00:37, April 3, 2011 (EDT)
- Well, that format ("graph") also requires the presence of GraphViz. This is actually something I've wanted to add to Referata, so that's good timing for the request - hopefully it can get added this week. Yaron Koren 17:42, April 4, 2011 (EDT)
18.104.22.168 15:22, April 25, 2011 (EDT)
22.214.171.124 15:22, April 25, 2011 (EDT)
Hello, I think it is a good idea to enable these two magics because they are very useful, also for statistics.
For example, you can calculate the rate of templates who are categorized in Category:Templates etc.
Can you do that, please?
--Dennis07 16:08, April 28, 2011 (EDT)
Vector extension (not skin) and Maplib extention request
Hello, I'm wondering if it's possible for you to enable two extensions, the first would be the Vector features (to allow for collapsing of the navigation and such) from here:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Vector. Secondly is it possible to install the maplib extension (http://trac.wikia-code.com/browser/wikia/trunk/extensions/3rdparty/MapLib/MapLib.php) as well? working with the google maps API for my fantasy maps gives me a headache like nothing else.
Basilmemories 19:58, May 19, 2011 (EDT)
- I'll look into the Vector extension after MW 1.17 comes out (and Referata gets upgraded to it) - it looks like it requires MW 1.17. What problems are you having with Google Maps? Yaron Koren 17:57, May 22, 2011 (EDT)
- Namely the problems I'm having are that the documentation for custom maps has a rather steep learning curve, sadly. There's not much in the way that I could find that makes a good starting-off point, and since I'm just trying to get into it, that's a problem for me. Basilmemories 03:40, May 27, 2011 (EDT)
Several features i would like to have installed
The extensions are:
- WikiHiero - an extension to display hieroglyphs via <hiero>-tags
- YouTube - an extension to display YouTube videos via <youtube>-tags
- RandomSelection - an extension to display random code- or text-options via <choose> and <option> -tags
just these. --Rion 01:09, June 12, 2011 (EDT)
- YouTube videos can already by displayed via the Widgets. The other two might actually be useful. Out of curiosity - you really want to display hieroglyphics? Yaron Koren 08:49, June 13, 2011 (EDT)
- Fix - I just wanted the RandomSelection and EditCount, not Wikihiero. --Rion 19:41, June 15, 2011 (EDT)
- And it would be good if you added the rollback right to the Widget editors -group and changed it's name to rollback. The way the group looks right now is that it's quite useless. --Rion 22:21, June 15, 2011 (EDT)
- What do widgets have to do with rollback? I don't understand the connection. Also, which of the two EditCount extensions are you talking about? Yaron Koren 23:39, June 15, 2011 (EDT)
- I meant that a group with only one right is quite useless and that many other wikis have a rollback-group. And i meant the Extension:MW-EditCount. And I know that there is the approvedrevs extension already, but the Extension:Patroller could be still useful. So, my requests are:
- RandomSelection-extension. Reason: Usefullness
- MW-EditCount-extension. Reason: Usefullness
- Patroller-extension. and a patroller right for Widget editors Reason: Usefullness, and a group with only one right is quite useless
- Rollback right for Widget editors. Reason: A group with only one right is quite useless
- Widget editor group name changed to Rollback. Reason: Most wiki's use the group name rollback. This request is connected to the previous request. That's all. --Rion 12:55, June 16, 2011 (EDT)
I've just noticed that Referata's updated to 1.7, and was wondering how the recent crop of features being requested are going (especially a tool to hide/show the amazingly long list of links on the side navigation under each section. And either maplib extension support, or any form of openlayers documentation/googlemaps support that doesn't appear to be entirely written in moonspeak). I'd add this to the current open thread I've got, but that doesn't seem to notify you of a response, but a new thread does.
Basilmemories 00:20, July 26, 2011 (EDT)
- It's 1.17, by the way, but thanks for the reminder about Vector - I'll look into it. I'm not going to be adding any other mapping extensions, though - Maps and Semantic Maps can do pretty much everything that's needed. I suggest you learn to read moonspeak. :) Yaron Koren 19:19, July 27, 2011 (EDT)
- Then as per my request, is there any such documentation for learning said moonspeak? Especially for someone who routinely transposes numbers and letters? I've been asked before on help with the semantic part of things by multiple people, and one of the issues they pointed out was that they had trouble finding documentation for laypeople. I understand that you don't want to clutter things up with additional extensions, but there are two primary issues here.
1) There's really no beginner-friendly way to get into openlayers
2) The iframe portion of the widget extension (what I was hoping to use as a workaround) doesn't appear to be functioning on this wiki.
If either of these were available I'd have no problem with it, but as it is it leaves a gaping hole in what I need to do on my Wiki... at least not without uploading copious amounts of map files to get the same effect done.
Hopefully I've done this right so you'll get a notif on this one. 126.96.36.199 16:09, July 30, 2011 (EDT)
- Hi - I sympathize with you, and I know the documentation could be better, but I'm simply not going to add any other mapping extensions to Referata - it's not going to happen. That's for two reasons: Referata's primary focus is Semantic MediaWiki and its related extensions; and there are no better mapping extensions than Maps and Semantic Maps. If there's something you don't understand about how to use them, I suggest you ask on those extensions' talk pages. Yaron Koren 18:55, July 30, 2011 (EDT)
I am making translation management
See Category:Translations pending please. I link it in my homepage User:Alexandre. This catagory is empty today. I don't remember, but I think that I had created the page Referata:FAQ/pt-br in this category for it be translated. You considered it as "spam like" and deleted it. Maybe because it was appearing in the language bar of the Referata:FAQ page. But now I want to note that there may be as the language bar to filter the Translations pending category.
00:43, December 30, 2011 (EST)